Your ITIN and you
Boggle as the intrepid author fights her way through the swamps of legalese! Gasp as she overcomes the clinging forests of red tape! Tremble as she asks the men with machine guns to stand aside and let her pass!
Well, OK, it probably isn’t possible to make a post about UK and USA tax arrangements interesting. Though men with machine guns really were involved, that was probably the least fraught thing about it. Instead I’ll try for clarity and usefulness.
If you’re a British author, being paid by an American publisher, the fact that you may get 30% more royalties if you read to the end will just have to be compensation for the dull subject
The Tax Treaty
American publishers have to pay American taxes to the IRS. If you are receiving royalties from an American firm, then the IRS are legally obliged to take 30% of your royalties in tax. You then get what remains.
However, the British tax man is legally obliged to tax you, as a British resident, on your income. So you will end up paying tax on the royalties which have already been taxed. You will end up being taxed twice on the same earnings.
This is so obviously unfair that everyone was agreed that something should be done about it. As a result the USA and the UK signed a tax treaty which means that UK residents only get taxed by the UK.
This is good news. However, this doesn’t all happen automatically. It’s up to you, the writer, to prove to the IRS that you (a) are a foreign national and therefore ought not to have to pay American tax and that (b) you are in fact getting paid by an American firm and not merely wasting their time.
The ITIN Number
In order to establish that you are receiving money which you will not be taxed for, you need to get yourself an ITIN number. This tells the IRS who you are, and tells them you are exempt from paying them tax.
If you do not get an ITIN number, your publisher will be legally obliged to give 30% of your royalties to the IRS. They are probably already doing this without letting you know about it. Not – I hasten to add – out of any malice, but just because unless you stand up and say ‘hey, I don’t pay tax in the USA and here’s my ITIN to prove it,’ they have no other option.
How Do I Get an ITIN Number?
Here is my recommended method. I have done this myself and found it surprisingly simple and effective.
First of all you get a copy of the form here: FW7
You fill this in to the best of your ability. (Foreign Tax number = National Insurance number).
What the IRS need is (a) Proof you are British.
(b) Proof you need an ITIN because you are being paid by an American company.
The only single document they will accept for (a) is your passport.
For (b) they will accept your contract as long as it mentions the fact that you are going to be paid royalties.
Now take your filled in FW7, your passport and your contract to the American Embassy in London:
http://www.usembassy.org.uk/ukaddres.html
And tell them that you want the IRS office. You will be passed through the queue at the gates faster than all the other people (who are waiting for Visas). You will have to go through a paranoid security check that even airports would think is a bit OTT, leaving all your electronics, including your watches and even your belts at the door. Then, holding on to your trousers, you can ask the machine-gun armed policemen at the checkpoint which way to go and you will be directed to the IRS office.
I arrived at about 2pm and the whole queuing and strip search business (I’m joking about the strip search btw!) only took about 15 minutes, after which I was the only person in the IRS office, and seen to immediately.
The IRS man filled in the bits of the form I could not manage (name and subsection of the tax treaty under which I was exempt), took my passport away for just long enough to photocopy it, kept the copy, and kept the printouts of my contract, handed me back my passport, and that was that. I still have to wait 120 days before I get an ITIN, which will be sent to my house, but at least I have the assurance that the form got past the IRS man, so it must at least be properly filled in.
Problems
(a) But what if I live a long way from London?
You are kind of stuffed. You can post your FW7, passport and contract to the IRS office in the Embassy (address above). If you want to risk sending your passport through the post, of course.
(a.i) can’t I send them a copy of my passport?
Not really. They will not accept a copy unless it is taken by an authorised notary or Acceptance Agent. Googling reveals two Acceptance Agents in the entire country and they are both in London.
Also, I feel I ought to mention that Acceptance Agents will charge you £450 for the privilege, *and* the IRS man was not aware that there were any authorised Acceptance Agents in the country, so the ones on Google may be dodgy.
Frankly, if you’re posting your passport to an Acceptance Agent to be officially copied, you might as well post it to the IRS office. If you don’t want to post it, you’re stuck with travelling to London yourself.
(b) What if I don’t have a passport?
The only single document they will accept for proof of identity is your passport. There is a list of other documents they may take instead in the instructions of the FW7. One of them, however *must* contain photo-ID. If you have no passport and no photo-driver’s licence, you are stuffed.
If you have a photo-driver’s licence and your birth certificate you may be OK with that, but again they must be the original documents. If you don’t want to post them and risk losing them, and/or them not being enough proof of identity anyway, you will have to take them to London yourself.
That stinks!
I know. But on the other hand you only need to get an ITIN once. After that you will have the same number throughout your writing career, and it will be saving you 30% of your royalties all the way. It has to be worth the expense of travelling to London for a day, or even overnight. It has to be less than paying an Acceptance Agent £450 for the privilege. And you can buy ‘I love London’ T-shirts on the way home
Hurray! I have my ITIN Number! It’s all over!
Well, almost but not quite! All your ITIN number does is prove you are not subject to US tax. If you want your publisher to be aware of this fact, you must then send your publisher a FW8BEN to inform them. Only after you’ve done that will the publisher be able to stop taking tax off the money that you’re going to be taxed on at home.
Thanks so much for this Alex – it’s really useful and interesting information. I have to admit (not having received any royalties yet) I wasn’t even aware of this aspect of being published in the USA. When I submited my first Contract they asked for my NI number and I assumed I would be paid in full and just pay British UK tax. Hmm, without either photo driving licence or Passport it looks like I am, indeed, ’stuffed’. I’m not sure if it’s worth paying out £72 for a Passport just to retain 30% of what might be fairly meagre royalties. I’ve downloaded the forms though, just in case. Roll on Identity cards! Thanks again I’ll point my Brit friends to this entry.
Thanks for this information, Alex! Definitely worth a trip to London to avoid losing 30% like that. It’s a bit of a palaver, but it could be worse! (Like, £450 worse)
I, too, will point people here. Very useful all round.
Like Lyn, I’m in the position of not having received any royalties yet so am left wondering if it’ll be worth while. I mean, 30% of nothing is nothing. On the other hand, I might have sold hundreds of copies, or thousands, or millions, and 30% of that is defo worth more than the £20 off-peak fare to London.
Still, I get my first royalty statement at the end of this month – so I guess we’ll see soon enough.
I think, Lyn and Marc, that it’s probably worth it as a long term thing. The publishers in general are in the States, so the more books you write, the more you will need the ITIN. Get it early and you stand to lose less in the long run – and you’ll be better prepared for your future career.
Thanks for this, Alex. You have explained it very succinctly (and I enjoyed the tongue-in-cheek remarks). I am sorta stuffed though – well in that I’ll have to splash out for a passport and train ticket to London, damn it! It’s an expense I could well do without especially as I have no intention of going abroad. Hmmm, have to win some prestigious award so I have to fly to the States! Ah well, one can dream.
Stevie
I’m still chuckling at the trousers.
But this was a really simple, straight-forward, tax-for-dummies explanation that even I understood, so many thanks for that. Up to now none of my publishers have ever mentioned this little detail, but *if* I ever get into print, or break into one of the better-selling e-publishers, I’m sure it’ll be worth the £17 return fare from Brum to London to visit the embassy. I’ll just make sure I wear something with an elasticated waist.
I had no idea we needed an ITIN Number, so many thanks for the information. Wonder if we can write off the London trip as a bona fide writing expense?
Well you might be able to do it with a driving license and something else, if you didn’t want to spend the money on getting a passport. I have a photo-driving license, so I don’t know how much it would cost to upgrade from one of the old ones, but I naively imagine that it’s free.
I’m glad it made sense! And yes, they did make me take my boots off so they could check I wasn’t carrying knives in them. It was almost flattering, in a way, it’s quite nice to be treated as if you’re potentially dangerous for a change!
Oh, good point Tricia! Actually I imagine that you can offset the cost of the trip against your taxes here. Not that I’m yet in the position to be earning enough on my books to need to pay taxes in this country yet!
http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=96287,00.html#itin
We have agents in the UK where you can submit your W7. If your US income is over 10,000.00 then there are forms to request a refund. The US company still has to pay taxes, but the ITIN reduces the tax liability. Website is http://www.irs.gov check out Tax Treaties information.
Oh, many thanks for this, Rosemary! I’m glad I didn’t hallucinate the existence of agents in the UK
As they are all in London, though, it’s still going to be better for most of our members just to go to the IRS office in the Embassy.
Thanks so much for the clarification of the documents needed, and I had no idea that you could also apply for a refund, though I doubt if I’ll ever get to that level of income!
Thank you!
Hi Alex,
Thank you for all of the above (I’m nipping back in sec to check the forms), but just wondered about the ‘Authorised Notary’ bit. I work in Financial Services and therefore often have to get official documents (including passports) certified by and ‘Authorised Notary’, these being Solicitors, Judges, Police officers, etc. Are the rules different in these circumstances, do you know?
Thanks, Alex.
I’m not sure about that, Sheryl. Because I found it easy to go to London and do it that way, I didn’t investigate the options of getting a certified copy very deeply. I think Sharon Bidwell on the group looked in to getting a solicitor to notify her documents, so I’ll have to ask her about that one.
[quote]Wonder if we can write off the London trip as a bona fide writing expense?[/quote]
I would imagine so. It is purely related to your business–although of course if you take the opportunity to sight-see and take in a show, you might have more trouble claiming the whole lot!
[quote]I’m sure it’ll be worth the £17 return fare from Brum to London to visit the embassy[/quote]
Fiona, how is it that I live 30 miles from London, and yet the return fare costs me only a fiver less than it does from Birmingham? If I get a Travelcard, it actually costs more!
Thanks, Alex.
I will do it one way or another, but will check out that point re certified copies anyway. I might be that some people wouldn’t be able to travel for various reasons, so worth looking at. I’ll investigate over the next few days. If I don’t have chance to check in tomorrow (work, ugh!), I catch you all as soon as!
Oh, lovely to meet you!
very useful to know – thank you.
Good to know!
I admit I have earned some royalties, from 2 separate publishers, but I’ve never given my NI number to them, nor as far as I know had any US tax deducted from the payment to me. They seem to put the following caveat in the contract:
“Payment of taxes on royalties is the sole responsibility of the AUTHOR whether or not a 1099 is issued.”
Perhaps I’ve been naive, so do you think this contractual term doesn’t after all cover me – or my publisher?! I assumed it meant exactly what you’ve described we all want – that our income is paid to us gross, and it’s up to us to settle our relationship with the UK tax authorities alone.
(I will hasten to add that the tax liability on MY royalties is unlikely to subsidise the smallest fraction of anyone’s national debt, but you know what I mean…LOL)
Clare
I think that that was your publisher pushing all the responsibility onto you to pay your US tax, and that you are now liable to pay the IRS some money back and possibly in a difficult position should they ever realize. I would say that you should get an ITIN as soon as you can, so that if the IRS do realize you exist, you will be able to prove you ought not to be paying them tax.
I don’t know whether the US have a limit below which you don’t have to pay anything, but I would say that what your contract means is ‘your tax is up to you. The IRS can take you to court for it, but not us.’
Wow thanks Alex!
*goes dashing off to sort it all out*
I’m a British author living in Canada and my application just got rejected as my passport copy was notarized by a Canadian notary. After phoning Austin, Texas, I discovered they’ll only accept a copy certified as authentic by the person who issued the document (which would mean a trip to Ottawa and the British High Commission or a risky post it off and hope they’ll send it back attempt) or, and this is where I got a little miffed, a US notary.
Why a Canadian notary isn’t good enough (and presumably a British one, too) I don’t know.
It’s a total pain and they really don’t make it easy to claim this exemption. 30% of my royalties will just about buy Mr Bush coffee and a donut, but he really seems to want to have that mid-morning snack…
Well my first application was rejected. I went to the US for a conference, and the notary at the hotel did my passport for me, for nothing. A US notary!
But – I didn’t fill in the treaty number on the box so my application was rejected. At least I think that’s why, but I couldn’t really tell from the letter I got. They could have sent the notarised passport copy back to me so I could try again, in the same envelope even, but no, they didn’t. So I was stuffed. Getting your passport notarised and then something called an apostile attached to it costs a fortune over here, even if you can find one. In the US there are notaries everywhere. I should have got 2 or 3, but I never thought about that.
I’m going down to London expressly to visit the Embassy so I can have another go, so I really hope it works this time.
I don’t see why we can’t give them our NI numbers and let them make an ‘acceptable’ number out of that, but no, we have to do all this.
Oh no! I hadn’t thought that after all that trouble the application could still be rejected! I swear that sometimes they make it this complicated entirely to stop everyone but the most dedicated from taking advantage of the treaty.
But yes, the treaty number was the reason I thought it was best to take it to the Embassy. I thought that if anyone would know what it was, they should
Good luck next time!
Really useful article: thanks very much.
I speak as a writer of comic books. I’ve done some bits and pieces for various US companies, and – up until now – have received my stated page-rates without a problem. Only now, after a year, are my employers requesting copies of the W-8BEN, and the ITIN I’ll need to obtain in order to fill it out.
So, this is probably the wrong attitude, but: if I’ve been getting away with it for a year… what’s changed?
blimey. I had no idea about this. we got a smidgen of royalties from DC comics a while back, and I can’t remember if the contract said about taxes or not…I will dig them out and check! next time we are headed down to London we’ll have to go and get this sorted.
imagine finally earning a wedge of royalties and then giving 30% of it to the IRS! the mind boggles….
thanks for the info, such a useful article!
Really useful article: thanks very much.
I speak as a writer of comic books. I’ve done some bits and pieces for various US companies, and – up until now – have received my stated page-rates without a problem. Only now, after a year, are my employers requesting copies of the W-8BEN, and the ITIN I’ll need to obtain in order to fill it out.
So, this is probably the wrong attitude, but: if I’ve been getting away with it for a year… what’s changed?
No problem, Si! As for what’s changed, I’m not sure. I got a contract from a different publisher and they asked me for my ITIN, so that was when I went to get one. My original publisher still hasn’t asked me for it, and I keep forgetting to tell them. Like Leah says, I’m probably setting myself up for having to pay a great lump sum of tax back when they do catch up with me. Must do it today!
blimey. I had no idea about this. we got a smidgen of royalties from DC comics a while back, and I can’t remember if the contract said about taxes or not…I will dig them out and check! next time we are headed down to London we’ll have to go and get this sorted.
imagine finally earning a wedge of royalties and then giving 30% of it to the IRS! the mind boggles….
thanks for the info, such a useful article!
No problem, Leah! It was something I found it hard to find information about when I was trying to figure out what to do. So I thought – once I’d found a good way – I would let people know.
This works, btw. I got mine within about a month of asking
Would it not be simpler to let the US publisher deduct the 30%, with no ITIN, and then when filing in the UK, set off the 30% deduction against the UK tax owing? Would that be legal. Alternatively, if you were non-domiciled UK, don’t remit and just settle for a 30% tax rate.
That does sound as if it would work, Michael, but in my case I had to get an ITIN because my publisher required me to. So it’s good to know the procedure for getting one, just in case your next publisher demands one too
Great article! Already had my W-7 knocked back once. Only problem is… what is the Treaty Article Number?
This is the only clear table I could find:
http://ais-ss.usc.edu/empldoc/forms/w7_is.pdf
So the UK’s number is ‘7′?
That’s underwhelming short for all the searching it needed.